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  • ssreenu
    04-14 07:50 AM
    From the following information:

    1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.

    Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.

    Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.

    Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)

    Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.

    Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
    With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.

    Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically


    OK first of all this proposed bill has no relation to the DV lottery neither does it have any relation to H1B visa. We are talking about the people who are stuck in GC queue for 8 years or more. Which means we are referring to people you started their GC application 8 years ago and still waiting in queue without knowing when their number will come. I hope this clarifies your doubts. Just because you stayed legally for 8 years does not/should not qualify you for getting permanent residency, you have been legally here and paying taxes for the past 8 years there by contributing to the economic growth of the country and this should be the reason why the US govt should consider you for giving you permanent residency. Think about the kids of EB3 holders who are on H4 and want to join college after 16 years, They are not considered residents in US and there by all the international rules apply for their college studies. So much for being in US for 8 years or more and paying taxes to the government and contributing to the economic growth and you get to pay more and more. When illegals can get a DREAM ACT why not our kids? if you are married recently and had your kid born here in the US you might not understand this because your kid is a US citizen but it has a huge impact on EB category members whose kids are not born in the USA, just think about them.

    One has to start somewhere to achieve their goals without even trying to start how can we think this is not possible. I don't want to give any examples here but I would like to say that out motive should be to turn the IMPOSSIBLE to I'M POSSIBLE. Those who are with me please contribute. Critics are welcome without them we would never get new ideas for discussions.

    Wishing for the betterment of everyone in this forum!





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  • swamy
    11-25 01:57 PM
    !@#$%^&*(())- thats 'bump' in Michiganese - I mean waht we yell when we hit one





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  • immigrant2007
    08-11 11:07 PM
    what makes you think that EB3 are just graduates only? i worked in top 3 telecom company with B.tech+ 8 years experience before joining that company as full time employee in 2000 Jan. they started by GC process in JAn 2001.
    but they have a company policy that all will be filed as EB3 no matter what. i have my colleagues who have masters from US, but still EB3. what do you say ?

    what pisses me off is today i have more than 15 years of experience in IT , (yes Information technology only) and still in the line with EB3.
    I'm happy that atleast EB2 is moving but at the same time there must be a balance for EB3 as well. that's all my point

    (NOte: i was playing by rule so far and no regrets for that)

    I strongly agree with you and forgive stupid MAsters guys for his stupid comments.....this is the way he is showing support for everyone





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  • svn
    04-24 08:26 PM
    Dear friends, as I read all of your stories, I cannot help but relate it to mine. Even as I write this though, I am in the middle of a dilemma - I am being offered a promotion to a Director position and I cannot decide whether to accept it or not.

    I have been in the US for over eight years on an H1 and have been working for a Fortune 20 firm as a Manager for the last four. My company applied for my Labor Cert back in Dec 2002 and while it cleared State in May 2003, the application was stuck in Federal processing for more than a year. Just as it seemed like they were getting to applications that had been transferred in during May 2003, the BEC took over and I literally felt like the rug had been pulled from under my feet! It's been almost two years since then, but I have seen no progress at all - zero, nada, zilch!

    Meanwhile, I have been working hard at my company sorting my way through leadership changes, reorgs and changes in vision and strategy. While all of my colleagues and friends were applying to new positions and getting promoted, I lay low. Four years in the same job - I can tell you that is a looooong time! It isn't just that work starts to become a drag but also life itself seems to be in limbo and the frustration of the wait starts to spill over into personal life.

    I got married two years ago and my wife, bless her heart, has been making a valiant effort to keep busy and pursue other interests, since she is on H-4. However, I know she can't wait to start working.

    As all of you know, it takes a lot to succeed in the US economy and be recognized, but I have worked hard. Not only have I paid taxes for 8 years, but I also feel like I have paid my dues. I have an MBA from a top b-school and skills that are in demand. I cannot help but wonder, whether we are meant to waste our lives away?? You start feeling like a second-class human. I know I can always go back to my home country but I have invested a lot of my life here. We need justice!



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  • Nickjr
    09-15 11:29 AM
    Just want to convey how much we appreciate the efforts of IV in our fight to GC process.
    When we don't see the positive news (in form of Monthly bulltin) we expect IV to approach USCIS or DOS or show protest in form of rally? However if we look at the efforts of IV team in recent years we would notice that some time I feel the power of thsi forum is much bigger than approaching congressman or senator for favor especially in GC process.

    Few montsh back I did send mail to talk radio host in Boston requesting him to
    speak on the legal immigration some time. I did send immigrationvoice.org as reference .I am not sure if he spoke on this as I am not regular lister of radio talk show but he did appreicate the information available in the web site.

    Go team !!





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  • pappu
    12-18 07:10 PM
    Thanks eb3 retro, baleraosreedhar and Praveen (sw33t).
    thus we now have 12 contributions



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  • chanduy9
    07-06 01:14 PM
    I will give you a couple of reasons, why I am not supporting this idea, at the same time I won't discourage you from doing it:

    Last year when CIR was being discussed in Senate, anti-immigrants sent thousands of bricks to Senator's offices. Bricks build walls, their message was clear, focus on border security first. This was a -ve campaign. It was popular in the right wing media but since CIR passed in Senate. I am presuming this campaign didn't work. The reason it failed was because the idea was to grab headlines but no thought on what after that. No strategy. Lets correlate this with flowers. An officer at USCIS will get these or maybe a dozen people. They will feel good. End of story. They don't have the ability to change the USCIS policy or the July bulletin, which is IV's aim. So basically sending flower is a gushy gesture and may sound fancy but USCIS doesn't work on emotion. If it did, why would they loose thousands of visas each year even though there is rampant backlog and retrogression?

    Some members say well, flowers will attract media attention and hence help our cause. Well, unless Paris Hilton is sending those flowers you won't get much media's attention. Indirect, subtle and passive communication doesn't work in America. That is a cultural issue that these members need to come to grips with fast.

    Our goal is to make USCIS accept July applications for AOS for GC. Since USCIS won't do that whats the best way to do it, well to exert external pressure. How is that done. Contact Media, Senators, Congress members and the Judicial system.

    Too much babbling on my part, now, I am going to write a journalist requesting more media coverage on our issue.

    Best of luck

    We are not sending pen, paper and cal to caluclate the accurate VB. And one more thing we are not fighting for it, just we are telling how badly we effected with the "flip flop" game of USCIS.

    Pls see the first page for plan of action..we are gonna send the e-mails to reporters...i guess this is gonna big hit.

    When you are writing to journalist mention about the JULY 10TH FLOWER DAY!! I am sure she/he will ask couple of questions abt it.

    just my 2 cents..

    Thanks,
    Chandra.





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  • sugaur
    12-04 08:08 PM
    Heres the quote from the article
    "Baby Jaqueline was delivered at 9:25 p.m. and weighed 6.28 pounds." So, yes ,she did deliver without complications.
    And the Mayans couldnt even see their own end coming, let alone forecast that of the world :D.



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  • gcvision07
    07-17 10:08 PM
    Thank you very much IV core team.
    You have done a great job in the past few days to get every one out of this fiasco.
    Thanks to all the members of IV who have helped in acheiving this great success.





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  • sk2006
    08-13 08:58 PM
    Fred,
    Congratulations!!

    Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.

    Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p
    -Doggy

    As per him his GC is approved when his Priority date was not current.
    This could mean trouble and he has to contact USCIS to correct the error.



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  • dvb123
    07-09 08:24 PM
    According to DHS statistics there are around 50,000 EB2 lndia Labors in 2004 and 2005 each. So ppl with 2005, 2006 priority dates you can wait around 6-7 years for ur priority dates to be current with annual limit of around 5000 for EB2 India.

    The lawsuit can be filed by your American Civil Liberties Union Member or ur aunt or uncle or mistress who is a US citizen. U guys and gals with 485's will not be there in the lawsuit but will benefit if the lawsuit wins.





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  • kpchal2
    08-21 10:37 AM
    hi jsb
    what makes you state with confidance that the preadjudicated cases will be evaluated. can you please explain the basis of your statement. both my case and my wife's case has been pre-adjudicated and i am waiting for my green card. so do you think we should expect our green card some time next month without any additional followup. i would hate to see my case being sidetracked when some one else with pd and rd much beyond mine is serviced. any thoughts and insights. not trying to offend anyone. just trying to get some information.
    thanks



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  • gimme_GC2006
    08-27 07:40 PM
    would anyone care about green or red i guess its better to be all red yahoo

    lol...:D





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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-09 11:27 AM
    everything in Pappu's message sounds good to me.

    Itisnotfunny,
    Should we go ahead and contribute what we pledged (those of us that haven't already paid) using the tool at the top of the screen?

    thanks,

    Yes, Everybody please do this ASAP!



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-06 03:20 PM
    Please let me know how to send money for this effort

    Thanks

    Thanks Bharam. Appreciate your generocity.





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  • dupedinjuly
    07-17 09:22 PM
    Hats off to IV core for sowing the seeds of today, 2 years ago. All the effort and sacrifice has come to fruition. Also, IV has got great media attention and has become a force to reckon with. Lets Party tonight.



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  • sugaur
    12-09 02:40 PM
    [QUOTE=hoolahoous;1136226]sorry but DOL's is not my theory. Looks like you never seem to have seen a child birth. It is an ACTUAL unit.

    Have YOU read the article you just quoted? It clearly says this is not in widespread use. Pain is SUBJECTIVE. I hope you know what subjective means.

    also if everyone goes through same amount of pain, that doesn't reduce the intensity.
    Yes it does. Because intensity of pain is perceived differently by different people. Just like Joy and pleasure are subjective.

    Let me ask you once you get laid off when your wife is pregnant. I am sure that you know that as soon as you are off the job on H1, unless you had AOS, you are ILLEGAL from same instant. Let me see where your principals hold. Status is a piece of paper which is created by human.

    In the remote circumstance that, that ever happens to me, i will follow the law and NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. Would you stay here illegally in such a circumstance? That makes you a "latent illegal". No wonder you sympathize with them.


    And imagine tying the hands to a bar when delivering a baby. I wonder we complaint about cramped seats in plane when flying to India (unless you fly business class, then probably you don't need GC) but think that chained to bed when delivering a baby is perfectly okay !

    A repeat violator of the law needs to be shackled. Just because she is pregnant doesnt mean she is a saint.

    There is a law for illegals and they should get the punishment (deported), but that doesn't mean we should go out of way to device our own punishments to 'teach a lesson' to 'these illegals'. There are some basic Human rights. Even POW's are supposed to be treated with those human rights.[/QUOTEe.
    Human rights? This repeated violator of the law was taken to a hospital, FREE OF CHARGE. She got all the medical care that was needed, on TAX PAYER money. I bet if she was given a choice, "We will leave you unshackled if you pay the bill for your own care" she would BEG to be shackled :D
    And since when is shackling a criminal considered "going out of way to device our own punishment"?





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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-06 11:50 AM
    Thanks for taking the initiative. I think we should get this going so that we have some more information on where things stand.

    Everybody, please talk to your collegues, friends. Success of this can not be spelled without u.





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  • Curious_Techie
    09-17 06:39 PM
    Don't they need a break after so much hardwork of campaign,lobbying They will see you again in 2009 July-August timeframe.

    All the Best..

    Take it easy..





    Gravitation
    07-06 08:56 PM
    Hey Gravitation, according to the poll "How many sent the flowers" you have not sent the flowers. Please either send the flowers or update the poll. Just keeping track :)

    I had initially polled No. Then I changed my mind about sending flowers. Order number: FEJ345413

    I just tried to change my vote, it wouldn't let me.





    jsb
    08-21 01:29 PM
    Are these RFE's genuine RFE's? I mean, some doc missed, improper or bad copy, etc? Or, if you changed job, or city where you live? Or, just to re-confirm your job offer? Just want a sampling of RFE where they appear to be non-genuine, for my education.



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