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  • hiralal
    05-02 07:10 AM
    well that is because Israel is a developed (or better ) than India in many ways. one Indian politician had once told Pakistan ..we don't fight when people are killed ..we fight when our land is in danger ..apparently because there is no shortage of people.
    I have some sympathy for tamils in SL but not the LTTE ..one of my tamil friends had told me that tamils are treated as second class in SL ..that being said ..the demand of LTTE for a separate state or country (or greater Eelam) is totally unjustified ...
    once such a thing happens in SL ..it will then happen in India
    but I agree ..civilians should not be targetted ..(as said in the next post) ..if they are bombing hospitals then it is very bad. as for India's reaction .. THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN U ELECT WEAK PRIME MINISTERS





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  • thomachan72
    01-13 09:39 PM
    Do you think with a cordinated effort on part of the IV members that we could/should write a well drafted letter to the USCIS to not target H1b worker for the cause of unemployment. Highlighting the various well researched articles that clearly say that H1b creates/retains jobs and the more they target H1b the more employment is affected. The real problem is outsourcing.
    I am just trying to put a thought out into the forum. Let us see what the IV leaders say. Somebody said that AILA was working to halt this process maybe we should write to them and extend our support first??





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  • samay
    07-28 04:32 PM
    Hello,

    I have filled I-140 in last week of March 2008. My priority date(the day I file labor) is 15-Sep-2007. My labor got approved.

    My I-140 is under EB2 India.

    Today I checked status of my I-140 on https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/caseStatusSearchDisplay.do

    It says :

    Application Type: I140, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR ALIEN WORKER

    Current Status: REQUEST FOR INITIAL EVIDENCE SENT, CASE PLACED ON HOLD

    On July 25, 2008, we mailed a notice requesting initial evidence in this case. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the evidence requested. Meanwhile, processing of this case is on hold until we either receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires. Once you submit the evidence requested and a decision is made, you will be notified by mail. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your mailing address.

    How much serious this is?? it says "REQUEST FOR INITIAL EVIDENCE SENT"

    I am waiting for RFI/RFE details as USCIS mailed it on July, 25 2008.

    Is there any difference between "REQUEST FOR INITIAL EVIDENCE SENT" and "REQUEST FOR EVIDENCE(ADDITIONAL)"?

    Is this means that they are processing my case?? Once I will give response to this RFE & they find everything fine than they will approve it(Hopefully) !!!!!!!

    I will really appreciate your response.

    Please reply me ASAP.

    Thanks.

    Relax and send all the documents requested by the USCIS. They might ask you for additional documents later based on what they receive from you or may approve your case.





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  • ivar
    06-15 05:55 PM
    Ivar and group,

    I think you guys are missing the plot here. Let me reiterate loud and clear. I am NOT against immigrants getting GC. I will not, even in my wildest dreams, claim that the recession is due to the H1Bs and L1s. That is complete baloney spread around by the anti immigrant lobby. My point is let the deserving the GCs soon and not go thru the mindless wait I went thru.

    Having said that I am for the following :

    1. If the outsourcing companies would pay on an avg at 80K per head for the "well qualified" people, I am even ok with their dumping their dumping the L1s here. Why is it that you guys are ok with the L1s being dumped at 40K-60K salaries ? Shuldn't they get paid high too ? This is what I am arguing for. If the outsourcing cos dont want to pay this rate, then keep them in the country of origin. No need to depress wages here. Is this a wrong thing to ask ?

    2. Grassley's bill may force some companies to move entirely to India or China. Isnt that good for India and China ? Why are the pro immigrants against this ? Some times I get the feeling as to who actually is pro and who is anti immigrant !!!! In adition, it may eliminate the many backlogs and help the deserving people here.

    3. People who have made a conscious decision to immigrate here have done so considering the standard of living as one of the primary factors in their decisions. In order to enjoy this standard of living, people have to constantly upgrade skillsets to remain competitive in an industry or move to another industry where mass interest is relatively low. Why should these people's lives, after all the travails, be impacted by the low wage scum outsourcing companies. Please remember these companies, like an other company on earth, operate only on self interest. No point in supporting such companies which in adition to the self interest principle also flout rules with abandon.

    4. In my opinion, self interest has alwyas resulted in the greater good of society. Do not confuse self interest with greed. Greed is what caused this financial mess. If people/companies operated with concern for greater societal good, they would have spent billions in concocting an AIDS vaccine for the children in Africa than to spend the same billions in concocting VIAGRA for the rich old men. Since employment based immigration debate involves companies' interests too, we have to balance societal good with some impact for the companies. My suggestion here is that let the outsourcers take the hit. They have always benefitted by flouting the rules. If your concern is way too high for your L1 brothers then you would find it prudent to bring in the law that clearly states "Pay high wages for the L1s or dont bring them in here". I dont understand what is wrong here ? Is it that I didnt convey my message across right or is it that people blindly support immigration ?


    As i said earlier i agree with you on few points but not all. I have an idea how L1s have been misused to bring in cheap labor but we can't blame them, its the system what allows them to do so. I am not blindly supporting L1s here but its simple demand supply ratio. When i started my engineering in india everyone use to opt for Mechanical engineering which was in great demand those days, its a cycle, Mechanical went down and later IT surged so believe me we are also in this cycle.. some day IT demand will also fade and there will be very limited opportunities available and there will be huge supply of IT engineers (ofcourse highly skilled and talented). The end result is lower wages. People starting their careers NOW should focus in future and what will be the next sector for great job opportunities rather than follow the crowd. We are almost half way through our career, some still have the energy and enthusiasm to upgrade or totally opt for a new career, while some stick to the same old thing.. its a choice we make and the result we get based on our choices.

    Standard of living ofcourse matters and is one of the important factor for coming to US but this has gone down recently not due to IT workers but due to US economy which shrinked at such great pace and trillions of debt US is carrying with it.. it had to happen as i said earlier there are lot of factors contributed for bringing down the standard of living.

    Lastly as you said the best to get their GC first.. agreed !! now how will you determine who are the best of the best.. points system?? or create more Employment based visa categories like EB1.1 for rocket scientist, EB 1.2 for PHd with 10 years and so on.. and do you think immigration system will get into this minute details. There are already three categories EB1 for best of the best followed by EB2 and EB3 and so on..(thats how US immigration does it). that doesn't mean EB3 are less talented people than EB2.. it is the circumstances you face while filing your GC. The problem is who will use the scale to check who deserves GC first and how they will judge who needs GC first based on what factors, protectionist attitude is not the solution and never going to help.. I hope i make my point.



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  • gc28262
    06-12 08:10 AM
    Dude, Read Vivek Wadhwas findings carefully. He wants the best and the brightest to be provided unlimited visas. I agree with him completely. He is not for perpetual fraud and wage destruction as proferred by the outsourcing companies. Next time when you quote a defence, atleast quote something that supports your case not the opponent's :-)

    You are contradicting yourself in your arguments. One one side you say you are highly skilled on the other you say you are worried about depressing wages for citizens like YOU. If you were so competitive, why would you worry about competition.

    If farmer grassley's bill passes through, you are the one who is going to lose your job (if you are still working at MSFT). Balmer has already threatened to move the jobs out of the country if Mr Change goes along with his protectionist policy.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=345899&postcount=1

    BTW none of us on this forum favors outsourcing. Whether you like it or not, nobody can prevent outsourcing. Even if corn farmer's bill survives, outsourcing will go on. If you are looking for job security, you need to change what you do for living. This applies to all of us on this forum as well.

    Could unions stop the shifting of manufacturing jobs to China. You are living in the capitalist capital of the world. Don't think companies will help you cling to your job just because you want them to.

    BTW you claim only 20% of H1Bs are genuine. How did you arrive at this figure. Have you interviewed each and every candidate who received H1Bs ?

    You seem to be echoing anti-immigrant's concerns. Antis also complain that MSFT product quality has been going down since they started hiring H1Bs. I guess they were complaining about people like you.





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  • samay
    07-28 04:09 PM
    Hello All,

    I travelled by car to Quebec-Canada and came back to US thru vermont on AP since my H4 visa stamping has expired. I was given an I-94A which has no expiry date and also is says single use. They didn't take my old I-94 and issued me a new one with no expiry date. Can any one please tell me if they had the same expirenece or should i contact the Immigrations and ask them to issues a new I-94?

    I read through a couple of forums and know that all were issued an I-94 with 1 year expiry date. What is the significance of that Date? I am asking this because we cannot travel on the same AP since the AP will expire in 1 year from the date of issue and hece we cannot use the AP even though the I-94 has 1 year validity.

    Hope some one can throw some light on this.I
    AP's are generally issued for multiple trips. I am little confused by your question. Could you please specify why is it that you think that you cannot use the AP again.



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  • maximus777
    08-21 12:46 AM
    SRK also equally crap to talk about...so lets give this thread rest to peace..

    Agreed





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  • pravarupa
    07-14 09:33 AM
    My Priority date is Jan 2006, EB2-India category having approved I-140. My husband is in EB3-India having pd Jan'2004, already applied I-485 (140 is approved) and got his EAD and AP. He is already using his EAD. I am a dependent in his I-485 but did not use my EAD and still continuing on H1-B.


    Since my case is EB2-India which is going to be current in August'2008. Am I eligible to apply for I-485 me being the primary and my husband being my dependent? If so would there be any problem when USCIS adjudicates my case?


    Will there be any movement for EB3-India in the coming year?

    Your valuable response is highly appreciated.



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  • hiralal
    05-28 11:50 PM
    Can someone tell me if this is right?

    - Total number of EB-2 visas = 40,000
    - 7% of 40,000 are allocated for India = 2,800
    - Number of EB-2 I I-485 apps pending = 30,000

    So if there is no spillover from other categories it will take north of 10 years for all the people who applied for I-485 in the July 2007 fiasco to get Green Cards. The only caveat to this would be attrition or legislation.
    That is correct !!! worse for EB3.
    I wonder why Charles or Murthy are not talking to congress to remove the country limits. I guess time has come to put "for sale" sign in my front lawn !!





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  • JA1HIND
    02-15 08:12 AM
    ........I strongly beleive that the H1B system and the EB greencard system has been setup to legally bring in high skilled workers as slaves and exploit them by taking away their freedom. We are no better than illegals, in the way we are treated by the goverment and the employers.
    I will fight this case atleast to try to prove my point before I leave this place.
    I am looking for some civil rights agency which can help me with the lawsuit. My fight is not for the GC, but it is for justice.

    Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!



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  • thomachan72
    08-19 08:27 AM
    By the way Mccaid, next time someone from Indonesia experiences such an issue please also make a thread here and whine about it like we did. Atleast that will make us Indians realize that SRK BS is really BS!!! because we will have no idea about the person who you will be whining about and there will be a lot of indians who will shout at you saying "why is this thread even on IV???? who is this person that Mccaid is whining about???This thing happened to even the great SRK so why this whining???:D:D:D
    If this happened to our prime minister Manmohan singh, I belive he would have just laughed. He would not have said "I am MM singh". The bottom line is there are certain rules and regulations and everybody (including SRK) is subject to them. Next time SRK travels he should consider carrying all the CDs of his movies with him to prove his "greatness".





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  • villamonte6100
    12-14 01:03 PM
    --Although I agree with what you said in earlier post (I had to debate with someone who thinks otherwise), I find this post in poor taste.

    Please guild your temper while expressing yourself and refrain from bursting out. Looks bad to the outsiders if they visit these forums.

    Ofcourse, humor is always welcome.

    Don't be upset dude. I'm just trying to suggest so that we could think out of the box. I don't think I have a bad taste.

    Honestly, we tend to be discuss to much the law here. We are not experts of law and I think we should start calling our lawyers and talk to them about this idea. Let's see what our lawyers will say and then we can share those comments from lawyers.

    Please don't be upset.



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  • she81
    02-15 08:11 PM
    To all proponents of country quotas:

    Well, if there is a cap for GCs then there should also be a cap on the number of H-1Bs that can be taken up by a country. There should be a cap on the number of allowable F-1 visas to a country. There should be a cap on number of employees of a particular nationality in an organization. There should be a separate line for different nationalities in supermarkets. Fair? Happy?

    Btw, why is there no cap on H-1Bs or F-1s and only for GCs?





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  • Vishal2007
    05-02 07:17 PM
    I am watching this thread last 36 hours, this is not media to discuss political issues, we are here to educate/lobby so called law makers of this country for our immigration issues.

    STILL BEING TAMILIAN, I HAVE RIGHTS TO SAY MY THOUGHTS


    Tamils in SL is not Indian citizen but they migrated long back still have culture,family relation in India. Rajive got assassinated because he is trying to implement unpopular/unacceptable foreign policy in SL simply by trusting his popularity (he deserved for his mistake) One Sikh killed Indira but we accept another Sikh as our PM. It is Indian gov. lobbied efforts to ban LTTE by western country. they are well organized, disciplined and high tech group. some people raise another issue, they recruited young children to fight, we all are talking so called democartic India, still encouraging child labor every where in India. Srilanka Government boldy refusing all western country pressure, even United Nation (UN, this is pice of shit in the trash) unable to convience SL gov. because it is backed by Indian gov. or you may called Sonia gov.


    Bottom line is Sonia is taking revenge on Tamils by supporting SL gov., after all she is from the country that killed Jesus.

    We already denounced India, I am carrying Indian passport with shame.




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  • gcvision2010
    09-03 10:57 AM
    May his soul rest in Peace!





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  • rahulpaper
    06-27 09:26 PM
    Based on this, I have again (yes, again) emailed by immigration lawyer and sent him the AILA's URL (although I cant see it coz I am not member of AILA).

    IF AILA reports that they stopped accepting new 485 petitions for EB3-other, then it is pretty freaking scary and that means that what my lawyer told me "I cant happen, bla bla bla..." is really not 100% accurate. If it happened in June, it can happen in July. This is now REALLLLY SCARY, coz my lawyer has plans for July-end for filing.

    Ever since the dates got current, it has been more stressful than the time when dates were retrogressed and almost makes me miss the retrogression days when I didnt have to depend on the lawyers for my career.

    It is indeed scary...I guess rumors can come to haunt us...I know that mine is not going in before mid july...we are seeing that is visible but doesnt exist...May be august bulletin (like predicted by USCIS) will still be "C"....GOOD LUCK to all. Irony of life is...all my life i gave exams in an effort to not get a "C"....and now all i pray for is just another "C"...



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  • ita
    04-20 02:27 PM
    Guys,

    Unlike here in U.S people in India don't seem to be aware of what's going on around them.
    Please do whatever you can in educating whoever you think would understand you.
    Media is not doing the job of carrying news to people , increasing awareness of people.
    It's just serving certain elements .

    Here's Modi's appeal to NRIs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvtTZ7B-2pM





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  • kondur_007
    07-22 02:22 PM
    kondur_007, u know how to make us laughing in a stiuation like this. your post at the end makes me keep laughing.:D

    Thank you very much...but somehow, I woke up sarcastic today!!! i hope i did not offend anyone...else I will get some REDS...:mad::mad::mad:

    Just joking again....:p





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  • GCwaitforever
    01-23 05:34 PM
    If there is a need for companies to save money by going for substituted labor, then maybe the DOL and USCIS should work out to make the priority date of substitution case same as the 140 date and not the labor filing date.

    I am not sure of validity of substitution labor at all. When the original labor petition was applied, they could not find suitable candidates and hence they had to approve the labor. Fine. What about at the time of labor substitution? They ought to check the labor market again for a suitable candidate and only after confirming that there are not any candidates, the substitution labor should be approved with priority date of the substitution labor filing, not the original priority date. This will make labor substitution difficult for Desi companies and keeps it fair for everybody - immigrants, local candidates.





    kondur_007
    07-29 02:48 PM
    Well, I think the scenario is different. It is somewhere inbetween those two thought processes:

    1. They are counting on CP case; but not much. If you look in the past stats about EB cases processed via CP, it is usually a very small number (and this would just make sense: if you are doing EB green card, you will be working in US and will do AOS). CP cases can not be more than several hundreds.

    2. The major hopes DOS has is on USCIS to process large number of cases. And they ARE capable of doing so; but only RANDOMLY (not in the order of PD or FIFO or anything like that). It is very unlikely that DOS will let USCIS waste any visa numbers. Because it is DOS's responsibility, not USCIS's. And that was main reasoning behind July Fiasco; where DOS wanted to prove that it is not DOS but USCIS who is responsible for the wastage (remember, there were some 60000 visa numbers unused at that time). This time, they are playing the game of "cooperation". DOS will advance dates only till USCIS can handle (not everything Current); and in exchange USCIS will use up all the numbers.

    If USCIS can not show that they have used up at least 75% (or something in that range) of the remaining visa numbers (which are probably in the range predicted in this thread giver or take few thousands) by mid august, DOS will further advance dates in sept. If USCIS shows that they used up most of the numbers, dates may go back. It would not matter what the dates are in sept as the end result is the same: all the remaining visa numbers will be used (probably randomly) to people with PDs upto mid 2006.

    I do not buy the "CP using numbers" theory from Ron or Murthy. It is all about allowing USCIS to use the numbers randomly and let them pick the "low hanging fruits" (as they usually like).

    For the next fiscal year, they will move dates back to mid 2004 (just a wild guess), but I dont think it matters any way...(till the end of the fiscal year). USCIS will probably go in hibernation again till the last quarter of next year and the date will advance again dramatically (may be upto 2008) to let them use all the left over/spilled numbers.





    chi_shark
    09-23 01:10 PM
    this summary of the crisis is wrong... in fact *this* is unfair to ply people with
    incorrect versions of news... nearing to lies... if intentional... the lack of liquidity stems from the fact that subprime borrowers are finding it hard to keep payments going after their payments reset on ARMs. CDOs that were based on mortgages were rated highly by rating agencies based on precedent of earlier years started losing buyers because payments were not coming through (ie default) and that led to lack of buyers and then there was a general exit from the CDO market... investment banks (like lehman) are allowed by fed regulators to classify certain assets as investments and hence not re-evaluate value them (or mark them to market) every once in a while... however, in light of actual default on some assets and ensuing lack of market interest, they started writing down asset values... thats when they collapsed... there was no way people would have come back in 30 years to buy an asset for which the underlying payments had already stopped...

    hope this sets the facts straight or at least gives a different point of view for people to chew on.


    The 700Bn or whatever the final number is not entirely a drain.....

    the thing with all these exotic securities is not that they are completely worthless but that there is no market for these right now and hence are illiquid - so if someone had the ability to keep these securities for a long term (say 30 years - since most mortgages are for 30 years) on their balance sheet - they may not lose as much money as they would if they tried to liquidate these investments in the short term.

    Financial Institutions typically borrow short term to invest in long term investments and keep renewing the short term borrowings - since the underlying investment has become illiquid - it has become difficult to raise financing against it. the govt, howver, can take a long term view and be patient....who knows.....in the end - the Govt may actually come out with positive cash flow at the end of all this mess. So, the bail-out plan may not be as bad an idea as media is portraying it to be.........in short-term - it does take US into further indebtedness.

    I already have a GC - so this debate does not impact me personally - but this is against the basic principals of natural justice.......GC applicants were placed into certain EB categories based on job descriptions and qualifications and then within queues assigned priority dates based on certain logic and are currently being approved based on PD and country quotas..........all these rules were known and published prior to companies and people applying for these GCs.....

    No matter what the incremental benefit is, I think its blatantly unfair (like it was blatantly unfair to push some people to labor backlog centers and approving people with later PDs first) to change the rules of engagement and prioritization midway through the process and give preference to someone based on an ability to invest certain $$s in an house.......buying a house is a commercial and lifestyle decision........should not be a precursor to a USCIS adjudication.......

    keep the red dots coming folks!



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