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  • kumjay
    06-27 03:42 PM
    I am sorry to say that all EB-3 and EB-2 dates have gone back to 2001. Please check DOS site.

    *******You want rumor.....I will give you rumor ************

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  • same_old_guy
    09-23 08:19 PM
    Well, here�s some more stat : Base on GC allocation of FY 2008 ( ),

    EB1 India got 5,327 visas , EB2 India got 14,818 and EB3 India got 3,576 even though the quota was 2,803 for each preference.

    As an example, I-485 pending for EB2 and EB3 India before 2006 are 17,835 and 46,334 respectively. Everything else being equal, you can take a guess how long it would take based how old the report was. Even if the report is from yesterday to be pessimistic and there are nuances, it gives some approximation unless the interpretation is totally wrong.

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  • voldemar
    04-28 01:16 PM
    so no more labor substitution han? that sounds so sweet to me. we should expect pd movement for eb3 now and maybe for eb2 too now. and this is the best news i have heard in such a long time.
    Not yet. Rule should be published in Federal Register.

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  • Administrator2
    12-15 09:48 PM
    We have taken these ideas to executive and legislative branches of the government. Our suggestions/proposals have been taken up at the top most level. This has been discussed more than few times with favorable consideration. Without being able to share the specifics, we have received extremely positive feedback for our suggestions. Specific events have to occur before this and similar ideas could possibly be considered in the new administration.



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  • logiclife
    06-28 05:04 PM
    In that AILA reference of EB3 others for june... DOS asked USCIS that visas are wasnt USCIS directly jumping to conclusions.

    my 2 cents..

    Still, just because DOS told USCIS "Visas are exhausted" doesnt mean they should stop ACCEPTING new petitions. They can stop APPROVING new ones, but why stop ACCEPTING new petitions. Visa bulletins guide the filing as well as approval of petitions. If visa bulletins is current, then they can both accept and approve petitions.

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  • krishmunn
    07-27 02:21 PM
    Nobody is misguiding anyone. Talk to your lawyer and find out. Amway doesn't offer you employment.
    What you get is 1099-MISC the same you get for your stocks and investments. Talk to your lawyer and find out.

    So you think Murthy folks are wrong ? BTW, attorney Khanna also says the same.

    You should first learn that there are different type of 1099. The one you get for Stocks and Investment include 1099-B, 1099-INT, 1099-DIV. Your Amway bosees will not inform you about these as they want your money.

    If you lawyer has said that you are OK with this unauthorized business I suggest -- change your lawyer.


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  • ash27
    05-29 12:35 AM
    I've met couple of guys who came on L1 and have filed GC in EB1. they are simply project managers and exploited this loop hole... I'd raised this issue earlier but was scoffed stating that I would have done the same if I would have been at their place...Felt like slapping the guy who made this stupid comment.

    Given that we have played by the rules, lets prevent any kind of fraud to make sure that there is FIFO.....

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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 08:17 AM
    to some of your points, but
    is the response from amitjoey not enough to understand why PlainSpeak's view won't work ?

    amitjoey response is good, correct, to the point and more civil than any one else. As you said there are more silent readers who if don't see amitjoey's response will consider IV is trying to do something wrong by harsh response (through their senior members/donors). Just read all comments except amitjoey's the thread will give different view (-ve to IV forum).

    When some one reads uncivilized comments they don't just think bad about the person but also get -ve impression about the forum. You are missing important point, just because some one wants to give comments so that silent readers find abt people like plainspeak/gcperm but in reality it works just against the forum nothing else.

    And when we want to create a professional forum for a reason/cause, as a forum member we need to maintain some professionalism in our comments. If anyone find any thread is not appropriate respond perfectly like amitjoey or report it to moderator.

    As a new member (joined just 2008 and read only reasonable threads) I never know someone GCPerm and anything about his/her good/bad threads. So, it doesn't add any value if senior members fighting on who is who.

    I am speaking for benefit of this forum which will benefit every person who join/participate. But if a member doesn't bother or care about what kind of -ve impression they are leaving then what is the real benefit of having that member. Just because that member don't care about having more members doesn't reflect the forum core members view.

    You don't agree to my views but your response is nice and civilized and that is what I am talking about. I would say amitjoey's way of response (so do your response to my comment) would help both PlainSpeak and every members who reads the thread to understand what is good/bad for us as group.

    One thing I disagree is your rough reality, in the name of rough reality we don't have to write rough wording in a forum where we need more people to join for a cause. You may not want any more member but I don't think that could be the case with IV core members. Why, mostly (not all) people who are in this forum will stop working for the forum after getting GC and we always need new members (may be 1 in 10000) who will add value to the forum.

    And I haven't responded to PlainSpeak because I have no knowledge about that topic and I am still understanding/learning it. Also amitjoey's response is more than enough which is civilized and perfect (at least to me). Unless I have something to add to his point I can just keep quiet instead of leaving -ve impression abt the forum.

    For any cause as a group we can fight with violence (uncivilized) and without violence (civilized). There is always people for both approach, but as a forum member we need to follow the core members way rather than our own way. And part of user registration we all agree to the terms and one of it is "By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

    I had my own experience in this forum about hateful comments towards me by a senior member/donor. But that particular thread got removed because of so much hateful comments. Once we start accepting hateful comments it won't stop at any level and the forum will be filled with hateful comments. If you feel some thread/comment is not good better respond properly or report to moderator. Why we need to fill this forum with hateful comments when we have tools to avoid it.
    My Friend ActAccord thank for saying things the way they are. And i am especially thankfull for the fact that you made it clear that you do NOT yet have an opinion on on topic at hand. People should discuss the pros and cons of any idea and come up with an approach based on that discussion.

    From where i am standing i do not see you as a junior member. I am sure that maybe sometime down the line you and i might be on the opposite sides of a discussion and may not agree on an approach but we would still have respect for each others dedication to their point of view.

    Now if you have been on this forum for sometime now you know what is going to happen next when everyone wakes up and reads your first post. You will have all these so called senior member (nothing senior about them) and junior members who will come at you from all sides with both fists swinging and abuses so brace youselves and give a fitting reply to anyone who disses you just like how you did to GreyHair down below


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  • ronhira
    01-13 08:28 PM
    how'll this affect those on ead or ac21...... it seems that this has no affect on us if we r using ead with the sponsoring employer or ac21 employer..... is that correct?

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  • shensh
    02-15 11:33 AM
    No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefiting non-Europeans.
    What is the basis of your claim my friend? What is the "racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world"? Do you know that "traditional" European country such as UK is not even qualified for Diversity visa?

    Please do not spread fear based on your narrow understanding of the law. UN is right in pointing out that every law has and should have an equalizer.

    Please read this from US Dept of State:

    "Diversity visas are intended to provide an immigration opportunity for persons from countries other than the countries that send large numbers of immigrants to the U.S. The law states that no diversity visas shall be provided for natives of "high admission" countries. The law defines this to mean countries from which a total of 50,000 persons in the Family-Sponsored and Employment-Based visa categories immigrated to the United States during the period of the previous five years. Each year, the USCIS adds the family and employment immigrant admission figures for the previous five years in order to identify the countries whose natives will be ineligible for the annual diversity lottery."


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  • shreekhand
    08-15 01:40 PM
    Couldn't have agreed any more than this:

    Don't make a big deal of Shah Rukh's detention:One For The Road:Anand Soondas's blog-The Times Of India (

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  • roseball
    06-28 08:27 PM
    June 28, 2007

    Late Wednesday, rumors emerged that the USCIS may attempt to retrogress the July immigrant visa numbers early in July and reject I- 485 (adjustment of status) applications filed early in the month. USCIS has taken such action already with respect to the �other worker� visa category involving non-professional workers.

    Visa availability is based on the U.S. Department of State Visa Bulletin, which is published monthly, not on a rolling basis. If USCIS cuts off visa numbers in mid-month, this would be a clear violation of Federal law and agency policy. If the USCIS were to take this arbitrary action, it would cause significant problems for applicants and employers alike.

    If USCIS cuts off applications on a certain date in early July, this will most likely occur without advance warning. In that case, not all applications will be accepted for processing. Be aware that that USCIS will reject an application unless it contains certain minimum supporting documents. For I-485 applications, minimum documents include a completed medical examination and birth certificates (or secondary evidence of birth, which must meet specific USCIS requirements). Applications for dependent spouses must include a marriage certificate. We strongly recommend that I-485 applicants obtain these and other requested documents as soon as possible. Until further notice, please do not plan to travel internationally during the month of July.

    We will work as hard and as diligently as possible to get I-485 applications filed quickly. This will require active cooperation by all applicants to obtain needed documents. Again, please understand that the proposed USCIS action is just rumor at this point, but if the USCIS takes such action, it will likely be without warning. Further, it is possible that there could be retroactive rejections of applications once filed. Unfortunately, this is all we know at this time. We do not know when and if any such actions will occur; we will also not know immediately which, if any, cases are rejected once they have been submitted.

    The attorneys at XXXXX are shocked and disappointed that the government could take such ill-thought and arbitrary steps and we will work to fight any illegal action by the USCIS. We are continuing to monitor the USCIS� actions and will provide updates as they become available


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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 05:20 PM
    You have a valid point about the DV visa bil.. But you forgot one thing, Any immigration bill altering INA will also have recapture attached to it..
    One more point it takes 15K to give a paper ad to say that IV supports this bill.. Do you want to run a campaign for this?? I will convince IV Core if you come even close to that $ number...
    If and when this bill goes for voting on the floor, I think your valid point about giving these immigrant visas to the oldest applicants first until current backlog is eliminated can be considered as a viable amendment/feedback to lawmakers..
    But I wouldn't hold my breath for that day...

    To VBKris77

    Now THATS what i call a solid arguing point and THATS what i call a discussion
    VBKris77 - Please do not think that i am being patronising when i stated what i did above, but all my efforts and abuse taking till now were for this point of time and this reply to my inital post. Infact i was looking for someone to start something in this vein and had to wait till now. Now my faith in my fellow men has been justified (I know that was a bit melodramatic but hey after all the abuses i went through i think i can be just that bit wet in the eyes). You sir have hit the nail on the head. Now when i see your reply i got more questions. If you can clarify this for me i would appreciate it or If you know of any location on this forum where i can look see and get self educated that would be appreciated too

    You have a valid point about the DV visa bil.. But you forgot one thing, Any immigration bill
    altering INA will also have recapture attached to it..
    My point about DV visa to most badly retrograded apps was because they have been the ones who have waited the longest out here. Now if this was recapture or removing country quota i would feel that the regular allocation would be correct. Since this is a one off my peronal feeling was that we could direct the spillover to extra retrograded apps and get some relief there

    My question are -
    Would DV visa to Employment based in any form be considered as an immigration bill
    - What is altering INA
    - So if the DV bill be considered as an immigration bill the idea of IV is that if we can get this into a law the implementation of the 50 k visas will be in the same way as the implementation of recapture bill (So that would be all spill over to EB2 till EB2 is current and then to EB3- And please that was a question for clarification not a jibe as some of the people out here would make it to be).

    One more point it takes 15K to give a paper ad to say that IV supports this bill.. Do you want to run a campaign for this?? I will convince IV Core if you come even close to that $ number...
    Ok to get this straight the money needs to be collected (Campaign is run) and the amount of 15 k be collected before IV will support the campaign. Just getting things in right perspective.

    Tell me something please, would a campaign involve asking every one who comes in to IV forum for donations for the campaign. The reason i ask is because to run a campaign for this effort is a great idea and I have some thoughts on it but most importantly i would need the help of all the members EB2/EB3 (yes even the ones who abused me) because you guys have experience in it.

    My opinion is that if we run a campaign it would have to be with a slogan that if and only if this bill gets passed the DV visas will fall to the badly retrogressed apps first. If we say that the regular recapture way wil be implemented then i think this campaign is a dead duck before even starting.

    I have an idea which might or might not work but i feel that IV needs to start a disclaimer for any campaign which will state that this is the path to be taken (and of course stick with the path) and state that X % is the chance of success and that these specific situations have to occurr for any chance of the bill succeding, I mean like a flow chart and also specific tasks which have to be done by people willing to participate in the campaign. Now i do not know if you (And only you because you talk sense. If any body else want to comment with logic and way to improve they are welcome. Abusers wil be ignored) have got the sense of what i am saying but as a person who is looking at IV from the outside everything i have proposed above is based on certain hard facts which are formed as a result of my deductions by observing IV all these years

    For a campaign
    1. Please do not try and educate a person out here because when you do you gets very high handed. Provide them a tool (Flow charts and all i talked about before) and direct them to a location where they have access to the tool and let them form an opinion based on their self education. That way they will understand what are the 1000's of steps involved in this effort. This will lead to the fact that since the are self educated they know the risk and the percent of success or failure of the effort and when they participate they are fully aware of what are the stakes involved. This also gets to convert all the people out there (to the ones above) who are under the impression that giving money to IV will get the job done and when the job does not get done they start feeling that IV has cheated them and start making assumptions.

    I know that part of what i said will look a lot like what IV was doing. Yes IV when it started was like that but somehow over the years it has become very intolerent and as some members have stated very abusive senior memebers which is very shocking. A personal effort by each and every member of IV to show civilized behaviour and make civilized conversation is a mandatory requirement. In fact (i know i wil get laughed at and ridiculed for this but) a post by each and every donor and senior member taking an oath that no matter what the provocation they will not abuse anyone on the forum will be the first step. This can also be part of new member sign up. And of course IV has the tool in hand to delete any thread they think is determental to their cause so no issues there but i would suggest making an extra effort to find out what the idea behind the person is before deleting the thread.

    If and when this bill goes for voting on the floor, I think your valid point about giving these
    immigrant visas to the oldest applicants first until current backlog is eliminated can be
    considered as a viable amendment/feedback to lawmakers..

    Ok now i am lost. What is the objective of the campaign
    1. Add the provisions to the bill
    2. Make sure that the bill passes

    Because they are both 2 different things and that brings me to my next point which is clarity of campaign (includingLetters to law makers/ donations etc). Calrity is very important here. There has been a kind of secrecy in IV which is cause of much pain and disturst. Of course i understand why the secrecy was put in first place. It must have been because of all the anti immigrants lurking around but when you think about it if the members are self educated (Like how i stated above) there is no need to inform any updates to them and hence there would be no need for secrecy. A donor forum will of
    course continue as is because some things need to be discussed.

    But I wouldn't hold my breath for that day...
    Sir i never held my breath for this ever. Even though i am not part of IV i am aware of all the probability of success in such endevors
    It was nice discussing the above with you.

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  • at0474
    12-14 05:17 PM
    Are you saying that because someone like that does not qualify for EB1, all they are doing is not wishing to compete on merit? Are you saying a teacher is not deserving of a green card.

    --No. I did not say that.


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  • sbabunle
    11-12 01:31 AM
    Having said all these, let me ask you something?

    How many of you wrote to Dept. Of Labor to stop Labor
    substitution when they put a comment period for the proposed
    removal of Labor Sub?

    Everybody knows that the system is broken. The whole point
    is what are we doing to fix it? This is a foriegn land. So we have to
    work thrice of 4 times harder to change the system in place. Are we
    doing that?

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  • MakabeRakuruta
    11-03 03:11 PM
    I'm planning to move to Canada in Feb 2007. (yes, passport stamped)

    Currently I'm on H-1b 8th year extension. Do I I've to leave the country(USA) the next day after I resign my job or do I've some grace period 30 days something?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • bfadlia
    02-15 02:52 PM
    Who created the monopoly?. Why are there less employers from other countries?. Who is preventing other employers from not hiring people from their own country?. It is a level playing field for all entreprenuers, right?...

    anyways, why don't we just patch up and move on... I am getting tired of this already and there are thousands of other people who are feeling the same.

    Human nature is what tends to create the monopoly. That's the reason for having laws, we know favorism will always exist but a law would prevent it from going over the limit. The way you want it we'll have whites-only-business, asians-only-business and so on..
    When you are tired of this discussion you should ask to stop the ones who started it saying their people are better and brighter than others and hence deserve larger immigration volume, before you ask to stop the people who answer them.

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  • BharatPremi
    09-24 04:54 PM
    Not sure what you are talking about. There are two rules as follows

    28.6% EB visas for each category EB1/EB2/EB3 and 7.1% for EB4/EB5

    Ans: These numbers are meant for "Assigning Visa numbers to applications" BUT " not to grant Visa / approve 485 / Order Physical Green card"

    7% limit for each country in EB category (India will get 9800 visa in all EB1-5 categories)
    + 2% dependent limit for each country in EB category

    Ans: These numbers are meant for "grant Visa / approve 485 / Order Physical Green card" BUT " not to Assign Visa numbers to applications"

    To enforce the limit each EB subcategory (EB1/EB2/EB3/EB4/EB5) enforces country cap, no more than 2822 visa for India in EB1/EB2/EB3 categories.

    Ans: this concept 0.07X 0.286 - It is a false concept.
    The limit can be extended when there are leftover visas (this is what has extended the limit for EB1/EB2/EB3 India for last few years).

    /\ my answers

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  • GCOP
    09-23 12:38 PM
    I completely agree with DSLStart. We are paying Monthly Mortgages, property Tax and Insurance for Home. and contributing to Economy So Please include Current Homeowners also.
    Current homeowners who are waiting for their GC MUST also be exempted from cap. This clause has to be there. Without having any gurantee of getting GC these folks have invested their savings in buying home even when the prices were high, WHY because they had real intent of making US their permanent home. So these people should too be exempted from EB cap.

    07-25 10:35 AM
    And what reason might that be? To be born in an insanely ridiculously pathetically gutterish country like India you need to have been a sinner in your previous life.

    Have some respect for your motherland. The country may have its problems and it may be heading for the worse - thanks to our politicians. You can point it out and take actions like emigrate elsewhere. But you dont have to get insultive and abusive of the soil you grew up on. In doing so, you only show the meekness of your character.

    12-14 04:03 PM
    His/Her country of origin and the state chapter is not really relevent for this discussion now, is it?

    It actually is. I am talking about an approach which has a chance (quite remote though) of removing the country based quota. You tell me that it is not going to fly.

    Now if you were from a country affected negatively by the quotas then I will take that as suggestions from some one who is in the same boat.

    On the other hand if you are from "ROW" then all your attempts to kill this ideas will make me understand how scared you are of this idea and hence how good this idea really is. :)

    The reason I asked which state chapter you belong to is to check if you are one of the "Real" IV members...coz there is a lot of people who are on this forum for a completely different purpose.

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